Podcast Episodes

Podcast launched on March 1, 2018 with new releases every other Thursday.

Episode 48 – Origin Story & 2022 Transition

In this episode, Tony and Eric are in studio to discuss the roots of the podcast and future for the show. Revealing Voices will become a part of Tony’s Delight in Disorder Ministries – a new nonprofit dedicated to publishing content to educate and encourage those impacted by brain illnesses and other mental health conditions. A successful Indiegogo campaign will provide seed money to get the ministry underway. More details will follow about how you can invest in this vital effort.

After episode 50, Eric will be stepping back from co-hosting to devote more of his time and energy to environmental stewardship. In his place, we will have a series of co-hosts representing leaders and experts in the field of faith and mental health. Plans are underway to conduct a series on Advocacy, Trauma, and Mental Health & the Church.

Episode 47 – Art of Invitation with Debbie Teike

Debbie Teike, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, is the author of The Art of Invitation: Building enduring relationships · Connecting community.  Debbie has extensive experience working in long-term care, elder abuse and neglect, hospice care and congregational social work.  She grew up in Decatur, IL and graduated from Southern Illinois University-Carbondale (B.S. in Social Work) and Washington University’s Brown School of Social Work (M.S.W.)-St. Louis, MO.

The Art of Invitation is faith-based and scientifically grounded.  It embraces an understanding of human behavior, need, and connection centered in God’s grace, mercy, peace, and love for all people.  It provides remedies for the common human experiences of division, isolation, and lack of genuine connection.Debbie is married to her husband, Mark, and has three children, Erin (Jamie), David and Shanthi and two grandchildren, Eloise and Francis.

Some topic include:

How is Art of Invitation different from traditional understanding of hospitality?

How can you have an invitational communication style with someone you’ve known for a long time?

How can the Art of Invitation be taught in churches, businesses, and other settings?

What is a Crisis Intervention Team (CIT)?

How can law enforcement be better equipped in deescalation techniques?

What does healing mean to you?  


Art of Invitation website

Relational Values website

Episode 46 – Hope with Kirsten Panachyda

Kirsten Panachyda writes and speaks to infuse courage into the soul-weary. Her book Among Lions: Fighting for Faith and Finding Your Rest while Parenting a Child with Mental Illness is available now. Kirsten blogs at kirstenp.com. She and her husband Dan have two sons, and they are a roller-coaster-riding, travel-loving, blue-hair-dying family.

Some topics include:

How did she transition from being afraid of sharing family’s story to having confidence to write the book?

What are some practical tips to prepare a loved one going to inpatient mental health facility?

How did Kirsten cope with son being hospitalied 2.5 hours from her home?

What is the Hope for Hurting Parents blog and support group?

What Does Healing Mean to You?


Hope for Hurting Parents – Provides resources for parents hurting over destructive behaviors or choices of their teen to adult children

Among Lions: Fighting for Faith and Finding your Rest while Parenting a Child with Mental Illness

Kneeling Among Lions: Praying When Your Child has a Mental Illness

Episode 45 – Saints who Struggled with Diana Gruver

Diana Gruver (MA, Gordon-Conwell) writes about discipleship and spiritual formation in the every day. She is the author of Companions in the Darkness: Seven Saints Who Struggled with Depression and Doubt, and serves as a writer and communications director for Vere Institute. She lives in Pennsylvania with her husband and daughter.

The book highlights:

  1. Martin Luther
  2. Hannah Allen
  3. David Brainerd
  4. William Cowper
  5. Charles Spurgeon
  6. Mother Teresa
  7. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Contact Diana Gruver at www.dianagruver.com or through Twitter @dianagruver and Facebook @dianagruverwriter.

Listen for a special offer in the interview for Diana to do a Zoom call with a small group who is studying Companions in the Darkness.

Some topics include:

What does healing mean to you?

Which saint did you most identify with?

In her research, did you discover many individuals who struggled with mental health?

What lessons did you learn from the people highlighted in the book?


Redbud Writer’s Guild – Vibrant and diverse movement of Christian women who create in community and who influence culture and faith

Vere Institute – Empowers church leaders to cultivate whole life disciples of Christ for everyday Kingdom impact.

I am Greta – Documentary (2020) – The story of teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg is told through compelling, never-before-seen footage in this intimate documentary from Swedish director Nathan Grossman

Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary

Episode 44 – At the Nexus with Eli Perez

Eli Perez serves as the convener of NEXUS – a collaborative group that is working to bridge gaps in mental health to support women, youth, and individuals coming into contact with the justice system. NEXUS, which stands for Neuroscience Experts and Cross-Sector Unconventional Stakeholders, aims to bring together diverse groups of people to share ideas and create new solutions in mental health. NEXUS is powered by Otsuka America Pharmaceutical, Inc.

Eli serves as the Director of Patient Advocacy and Stakeholder Management at Otsuka, focusing on mental health and other CNS conditions. Eli began working in patient advocacy in order to bring his professional work closer to the communities he serves. Eli’s vision for his work is to make new connections, drive collaboration, and create solutions that address unmet needs in “patient” advocacy and professional communities.

When he’s not at work, Eli enjoys playing golf badly and watching sci-fi movies with his family. He lives in New Jersey with his wife and three kids.

Some Topics Include:

Who are some of the “unconventional” stakeholders in Nexus?

Why are Women, Youth, and Justice System the three focus areas of Nexus?

How is Nexus involved in promoting prevention?

How did Nexus pivot change its communication strategy during the pandemic?

What does healing mean to you?

Learn more at the Nexus Website

Episode 43 – Healing Highlights from Seasons 2 & 3

The animating question of Revealing Voices is “What does healing mean to you?”

Tony and Eric have explored a wide diversity of responses to this question from our guests over the last 3 years. You will hear the voices of 15 different people in this episode, ranging from a Mental health Peer Counselor to Pastor to Landscape Architect.

As Tony and i introduce each of the highlights, we will reference the episode where you can find the full interview.

If you are interested in hearing highlights from Season 1, listen to Episode 29.

Episode 42- That Healing Feeling (Part 2)

This is part 2 with Sibyl Towner. We had so much fun with her and forgot to ask her our key question, “What does healing mean to you?” This episode focuses on her response to that question.

The episode begins with my conversation with her the day after our original interview (Tony was not in studio). The second half of the episode has our reflections, since we did not share on Episode 41.


The Spring Retreat Center in Oldenburg, IN

Pilgrim at Tinker Creek by Annie Dillard

Writing Wild; Women Poets, Ramblers, and Mavericks Who Shape How We See The Natural World by Kathryn Aalto

See Episode 41 for Shownotes on Thomas Merton, Richard Rohr, and Henri Nouwen

Episode 41 – Retreating with Sibyl Towner (Part 1)

Sibyl Towner has a passion to help people identify the voice of God that is within them and to encourage a responsiveness to that voice. She has over 50 years of experience in extended household living as well as decades of pastoral leadership positions at College Hill Presbyterian Church in Cincinnati and Willow Creek Community Church in Chicago. Noted for welcoming and listening across the ages and appreciating the gift of both men and women, she delights in creating a sacred and safe space to meet with God and others.

She currently serves as a co- director of The Springs Christian Retreat Center where she teaches a two-year certificate program for Spiritual Direction through the School of Sustainable Faith. She is co- founder of One Life Maps and co-author of Listen to my Life, a tool for recognizing and responding to God in your life.

Sibyl received training through The Sustainable Faith of School of Spiritual Direction and has served for ten years as a spiritual director at The Transforming Center. She is knowledgeable in the Enneagram.

Some topics include:

How does The Springs Retreat Center uniquely support pastors who are struggling with burnout?

What is the arc of her ministry that led to becoming co-director at The Springs?

How does Sibyl define spiritual mentoring and how does she practice it?

How has she used her understanding of the Enneagram in her own life?


The Springs Retreat Center – Sibyl’s retreat center near Oldenburg, IN (halfway between Cincinnati and Indianapolis)

One Life Maps – Sibyl’s personal growth and spiritual mentoring website

Abbey of Gethsemani, Thomas Merton’s abbey – location of important spiritual development for Sibyl

Enneagram Institute – Sibyl briefly touches on her use of Enneagram in her mentoring practice and personal development

Return of the Prodigal Son by Henri Nouwen

Everything Belongs by Richard Rohr

Prodigal God by Tim Keller

Episode 40 — When Despair Meets Delight Author, Tony Roberts

Eric and Tony discuss Tony’s new book, When Despair Meets Delight: Stories to Cultivate Hope for Those Battling Mental Illness. The book is a memoir of a minister with a mental illness and model for mental health ministry. Autographed copies can currently be ordered at Tony’s website: www.whendespairmeetsdelight.com. On October 1, copies will be available on Amazon.


Tony’s first book is Delight in Disorder: Ministry, Madness, Mission

me and White Supremacy book by Layla F. Saad – Eric is reading with his men’s group

Bee City USA – National initiative by the Xerces Society for cities and campuses to actively plant native wildflowers and support life of bees, butterflies, and other pollinators

A blog post by Tony honoring the life of his father, Veston E Roberts

Episode 39 – Environmental Stewardship with Rachel Kavathe

Rachel Kavathe is an artist, landscape architect, and city planner. Her work focuses on creative placemaking and site-specific art installations. Her studio is located in Columbus, Indiana. 

Rachel has over 15 years of experience working with communities to create, enhance, and celebrate the genius loci, or spirit of a place. Her work ranges in scale from community-wide master planning and public space design, to public art installations, and environmental art.

Her business can be found at www.locicreativellc.com.

Since 2017, Rachel and Eric have been working on creating “Pollinator Parks” in Columbus, IN with a focus on Blackwell Park and Pleasant Grove.

Some topics include:

What childhood experiences helped shape her passion for environmental advocacy?

How can an individual proactively advocate for the environment and reduce negative impacts of climate change?

How has public support changed in relation to investing in parks and using native plants?

What vision does Rachel have for future work projects related to wellness?

What does healing mean to you?


Just Mercy movie

Central Park 5 documentary

Friends of Pollinator Parks Facebook Group – Rachel and Eric started this group in Columbus to encourage people to invest in parks and use native wildflowers in public and private landscapes

Rachel’s #100daysofsculpture Instagram project

Eric’s #100plantproject Instagram project

Rachel’s blog (coming soon) at www.ideasonnature.com